May. 10th, 2003

Gah.

May. 10th, 2003 11:29 am
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Have been ignoring this and not updating--not because I don't want to; I've just had no time. I hate not having time. Homework, then guarding bunny monsters--thank the Valar that's all over. Then yesterday I was only home for about an hour, then went Jacobyhousing (it's a verb now, apparently), which was muchly entertaining. As usual, when we get many strange affectionate people in a room, we all ended up in a pile on the couch (five of us, this time). Eddy's black vinyl tank top had arrived, so she wore that yesterday and was having fun being "chick in black vinyl tank top snuggling up to and flirting with guy she refuses to go out with" (Bad Eddy!). She informed me this morning that she was having fun being evil. I'm not surprised; toying with people sounds fun. *is somewhat jealous* Which led to somewhat interesting discussion this morning as to whether or not we should (probably specifically meaning her) purposefully dress like that on Fridays as a routine. Eddy and I have a tendency to do things at the same time without planning it--earlier this year we both dyed our hair red on the same weekend, not purposefully, and then yesterday we were both wearing "sort of corset-type things... things with that weak boning that ought to be called cartilaging, anyway..." except mine was not as flashy as a vinyl tank top (very different genre-- more fantasy-type thing for me. With a shirt under it, with spiffy handkerchief sleeves).

Yikes, I have so many things I want to rant about, but I'm currently just feeling sort of not up to it. And I've been distracted with a mission to find out what the heck "Delyrian" means in Sindarin, if anything. Except the only existing online Sindarin dictionary does not work on my computer, which probably means I will be at some point sending Chris a very long list of Elvish elements that may or may not mean anything, and I've been playing with lenitions and vowel-changing plurals and chopping consonants, and basically have come up with really long list of things that I need to check meanings of and some things the elements there could possibly mean. I don't know how much Elves chopped things and fiddled them around, but considering laeg and lass yield "Legolas" and not "Laeglass", and that caran and rass yield "Caradhras" and not "Caranrass", it seems somewhat plausible to me that "rchr" could be shortened to simply "r" for pronunciation reasons, in which case del "horror" and yrch "Orcs" and rian "queen" could yield "Delyrian" instead of "Delyrchrian", if only because a name like "Delyrchrian" would be a pain in the ass to get other people to pronounce correctly. And accents don't matter much, so we can ignore the fact that for that to make perfect sense it should probably be "Delyrían". But that brings emphasis on the fact that there's the element rían "queen" in there, which we may not really want to do as it's meant to be a guy's name. Now, an can be used for "iron", even though I more often see it ang--nyah, we've got Angband "Hell(s) of Iron" (ang "iron" and band "hell") and then we have Ansereg "Elvish BDSM" (an "iron" and sereg "blood"), but that aside, then the name has del "horror" plus yrch "Orcs" plus i "the" (singular) plus an "iron" yielding "Delyrian" or "Delyrchian".

And if neither of those appeal to you, Matt, I'll get Chris or Jenna to check the meanings (if any) of delor, delo, dalor, dalo, telor, telo, talor, talo, and ian--and probably more, when I sit down and do this properly on paper and make sure that it's actually t that lenits to d in soft mutation.

Sadly enough, this is what I've gotten without consulting anyone or anything. I could probably find some of these elements myself if I went and poked through my Sindarin notes, but I didn't--this is what I did in the three hours between when my alarm went off and when I actually got up. *is happy, as feels like a Tolkien ubergeek, and ubergeeks rock* Linguistics fun. Last night Beky didn't have a name for her character and just wrote "--name pending--", so Chris and I went and figured out the closest Elven equivalents of "name pending", which ended up being "Esstelíon" and "Teliesswë". Rather unwieldy names, but it was done in about thirty seconds.

So that's about enough rambling for this entry...

Namárië!

~Claudia
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Am happy. Once I went and actually got my notes out, I got much more helpful stuff-- I was correct in that t lenits to d. Despite the fact that Matt told me to look at words like lir and lirian, istill refuses to change into anything in the plural. However, we have dol "head" which turns to dyl or del in the plural. "Head" could probably mean either like an actual head, or a leader type person. Also, toll "island", when it is lenited, made plural, and has the extra l chopped off (as in Tol Eressëa), also yields del. Then del, being either "head", "horror", or "island", could be followed by yr which could be a shortened form of something, or by the element lyr in which once again the two ls would be shortened to one. And to get lyr, I fussed around with the adjective for "gold".

Quenya laurë became Sindarin laur, or also glaur, which then shortens to glor (such as in Glorfindel), which would soft mutate to just lor (and I'm assuming you're supposed to soft mutate secondary elements in compound names, since we have Gil-Galad instead of Gil-Calad), which would be made plural into lyr. I'm not sure if adjectives are supposed to be made plural, but if the noun is, then it could as well--in which case, the noun is either del "heads" or del "islands".

Which leaves us with ian "the iron" or possibly rian "the queen", in which case if we went with ian (considering that "blonde queen with more than one head" doesn't work), and whoever named Delyrian was into double meanings and metaphors and very loose translations to just get a point across, we have Delyrian as a loose description of him as a blond fighty type, which I think works fairly well. Matt, opinions? I could probably still mess around with it if you really wanted me to.

Now all I need to do is tackle "Haldos", which shouldn't be uberdifficult, as it contains elements from both "Haldir" and "Mandos", and Encyclopedia of Arda should give translations, and then all I have to do is chop them apart and stick them back together again. However, I'm not doing that now.

Yay, and now I'm off to go shopping, and I feel like I got something done, and I'm generally very happy.

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